Should you run ‘testing’?

Bill, a photographer friend from Florida who is also a programmer recently decided to try Debian, and, some days later, decided to upgrade it from ‘stable’ to ‘testing’. I commented on his blog that I had done so as well for a while, but in the end I decided that ‘stable’ was more than good enough for me, so I stayed with that until now (and probably always will).

In case you don’t know, Debian comes in mainly three different ‘flavours’, namely ‘stable’ and ‘testing’ as noted above, and also ‘Sid’, with the latter being the ‘unstable’ branch (with ‘Sid’ being the ‘bad boy’ from the neighbourhood who breaks toys from time to time, so ‘unstable’ Debian will always be called ‘Sid’). If packages don’t get any error reports after being uploaded by developers to ‘unstable’, they usually get into ‘testing’ after about two weeks, for use in a wider audience, and thus with the chance of getting more bug reports.

So ‘testing’ isn’t as ‘stable’ as ‘stable’, but also not as ‘unstable’ as ‘unstable’, but are that all differences besides having newer packages?

No. While there are many good reasons to use Debian, running ‘testing’ still has some risks; its page for instance names the biggest one as: ‘Please note that security updates for “testing” distribution are not yet managed by the security team.’ It’s also work in progress, and as such lacks a lot of documentation, and to even get it, you’ll have to move to the Debian-Installer page which is *not* the one for the official ‘stable’ installer. You’ll have to follow the Debian Release Management team and their pages to get some updates on it from time to time other than their famous and proud quote “quando paratus est” (=”when it’s ready”). And the team’s release-critical bugs page lists the number of problems which are still to solve until the freeze for the next version of Debian, which at the time of this writing will be called ‘Bookworm’ (like always, after a character from the “Toy Story” movies).

Release critical bugs for Debian ‘testing’ as of today. Release dates are when RC bugs (the green line) are zero, that’s where the “when it’s ready” comes from, and Debian can be rightfully proud of that…

Don’t get me wrong – Debian ‘testing’ isn’t ‘unstable’, or worse than any other Linux distribution, even those with some kind of “Enterprise” in their names. But it’s also not ready, and as such not meant for all of us. If you’re a developer, you’ll run both ‘stable’ and ‘unstable’, simply because you’ll have to send in and upload new packages against the latter (I did so for a while as well, but never became an official Debian Developer due to lack of time). If you’re an average Joe (or Jack or Wolfgang) like me, you’d probably be better off with ‘stable’.

So to run ‘testing’ has some risks you’ll have to cope with, and as such in my opinion isn’t recommendable for the greater audience, most people who want newer packages than ‘stable’ has would be better off with adding the ‘backports’ repositories to ‘stable’, and so get some stuff earlier than with having to wait for the next big release date.

But as I said, Bill is a programmer himself, and like every developer he has read the documentation and so he knows what he’s doing. If that’s you as well, then go ahead and run ‘testing’, or anything you like. For me these days (approaching retirement), it’s too much effort to constantly care about my operating system, so I’m happy to have ‘stable’.

My 2 (Euro-) Cents of course, and as always, thanks for reading.

Below the sphere

What a nice chillout song from Andri and from Wade – couldn’t resist to add my ‘grandma’ to it:

This track is embedded with the friendly permission by the creatives on wikiloops.com.

As always, thanks to my friends and to Wikiloops for all the fun, and thanks to you for listening 🙂

Trying Fedora and Suse, on Arch

I’m no “distro hopper”, and pretty much set with what I have on my machine – and if you are reading this since a bit, you’ll probably know that I’m normally using Debian Linux, and for some newer things, Arch.

So when my friend Bill from Florida (a really good photographer who also has cats and dogs and is a computer nerd) wrote about Fedora and some problems he’s having with it, and when shortly after that seeing that I just got new Gnome “Boxes” on Arch, I decided to try and see…

For those of you who might not know Linux: on that OS you normally have both qemu and also kvm, which means that virtualisation is built into the kernel and your operating system already – and with a smart tool like the mentioned “Gnome Boxes”, the installation of other systems is only a few mouse clicks away, and really child’s play, even if you’d want Windows.

So I went and downloaded Fedora Workstation, and because I was curious I also downloaded openSUSE Tumbleweed, and installed them both in Boxes. First, Fedora:

Welcome Screen of Fedora Linux 36

and a few minutes later, Suse:

Configuration of openSUSE Tumbleweed

Because my machine has “only” 16GB of main memory, and my host operating system has a system drive of ~240GB, I was a bit conservative and chose the default settings of 2GB of RAM and 20GB of storage for both. Fedora comes with Gnome42 by default which is fine, and openSUSE asks you, and from (old) experience I assumed that the first option (namely, KDE Plasma) was/is still their default one, so I chose that.

And voilá, both running in parallel on my Arch system as their host:

Linux³

I haven’t tested much yet since I just interrupted my “work” on a beautiful Wikiloops song for this, but what I can say so far is that at least in my virtual machine and from my desktop, printing wasn’t a problem with Fedora – I had to give the Gnome desktop the local IPv4 address of our printer (an OfficeJet Pro 7740), but then I could print a test page no problem.

I’ll have a look at both and report more if there is something to say about these.

For now, and like always, thanks for reading.

P.S.: just discovered another first of usually many little “niggles” I have when testing Fedora – look at the clocks, after falling asleep for a while:

Fedora likes to sleep a bit longer as it seems…

So often I have tried to love it… :/

Chicken Thief

What a lovely song in a Jazz Manouche style from Frankie and from Thierry – couldn’t resist to add a little bottom end to it:

This track is embedded with the friendly permission by the creatives on wikiloops.com.

As always, thanks to my friends and to Wikiloops for all the fun, and thanks to you for listening 🙂

Oh, and for this one I used foam again, close to my instrument’s bridge:

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Foam for a “Chicken Thief“, Mörfelden-Walldorf 2022

Thanks for viewing.

Modern day Linux on an older machine

Recently I reported about another article on why people run Linux on their machines. And one of the reasons is always: because it doesn’t make your hardware obsolete, like Windows or MacOS both are doing. Proof of the pudding: here is Mitchie’s old Lenovo SL500, a dual core (Intel T5670) 2GB notebook from ca. 2008, running a current Arch Linux with the latest 5.18.2 kernel, the same which I have on my main machine:

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Modern day Linux on an older machine, Mörfelden-Walldorf 2022

If you enlarge the photo on Flickr you can probably see that its CPU is at 1%, which means it’s doing nothing except wait for any user input. And the system together with the very nice and modern XFCE desktop consumes just about 750MB of the total 2GB main memory – so it’s perfectly usable. Well maybe not for real number-crunching, video de- or encoding, or music production, but you get the point – as an everyday surf machine or even to watch videos on your lap, it’s perfectly fine.

I always encourage friends to try this, and we have converted many older machines in the greater family to Linux, no need at all to constantly spend any money just to stay “current”. As you can see, the version of Linux I’m running here is as current as it can get, much more modern, safe, and stable than your typical consumer OS.

We only boot into Windows if we absolutely must, and we’re all doing that since years (and Zuleikha since she was born). So this is an easy recommendation from friends to friends, ’cause that’s what we’re doing here. Oh, and by the way: thanks again to my son Jeremy who first suggested trying Arch to me some years ago. If you need “current”, that’s a nice one!

As always, thanks for reading.

A Day In The Fall

I had this wonderful song from Sami, Shi, and Peatric on my computer since almost two years. And now I played a bit to it:

This track is embedded with the friendly permission by the creatives on wikiloops.com.

As always, thanks to my friends over at the ‘loops for all the fun – and thanks to you for listening 🙂

She is Here!

Fabulous track from Ms Snoop90, to which I just added a few low notes:

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As always, thanks to my friends and to Wikiloops for all the fun, and thanks to you for listening 🙂

Poppy Sing Sang

Awesome song from Pat and from Ms Snoop, couldn’t resist to add a few low notes to it:

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As always, thanks to my friends from Wikiloops for all the fun, and thanks to you for listening 🙂

Waking The Cat

This morning I set my new toy to the ‘FLIP TOP-Style’, which should make it sound like an Ampeg B-15N. Then I loaded Don’s and Rolf’s awesome ‘Waking The Cat’ song into my DAW, closed my eyes, and these guys transported me straight to Memphis, TN:

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Using FLIP TOP-Style, Mörfelden-Walldorf 2022

As always, thanks to my friends at Wikiloops for all the fun, and thanks to you for listening.